Wyoming Treasurer Curt Meier and Secretary of State Chuck Gray are both dreaming big about President Trumpâs bullish fossil fuel energy plans, particularly when it comes to its legacy industries like coal.
The two want to see a coal export terminal sited in the state of Washington to open Asian markets to Wyoming coal. Washington has aggressively blocked coal from being shipped from its ports before.
During a discussion last week â aimed at refocusing the stateâs economic development agency, the Wyoming Business Council â both Gray and Meier expressed support for trying again for a coal terminal at a port in Washington.
Washington blocked the first terminal by determining that the port was an environmental hazard, and the deal fell apart after the developer went bankrupt because it took too long to work its way through the legal system.
Wyoming couldnât continue the lawsuit without the developer because it lacked legal standing.
Meier, in resurrecting the idea of a port in Washington, said his office has already taken the step of getting a legal opinion on whether a land purchase in the Washington state county where the port would be built would create proper legal standing for a Washington Port 2.0 effort.
â(Thatâs) essentially the same thing we did in Nebraska versus Wyoming where we bought land right in the middle of the recovery area for the whooping crane,â Meier said. âWhen Wyoming went to court, they had perfect standing because they were a Nebraska citizen right in the middle of that.â
Why Wyoming Needs A Washington Coal TerminalÂ
Wyoming has a lot of coal it could sell to Pacific Rim countries, Wyoming Mining Association Executive Director Travis Deti told Cowboy State Daily. But it is landlocked state, so needs a way to market.
Thereâs a port in Vancouver where some products can go to market, but it is a lot more expensive to ship Wyoming coal there than heading out of West Coast states, Deti said.
Unfortunately, none of the West Coast states are keen on the idea of more coal going anywhere.
Washington blocked the project, citing clean water and other environmental laws, Deti said.
Wyoming, in its lawsuit, which was joined by Montana, argued that this amounted to a violation of the Interstate Commerce Clause, which is part of the Constitution. The clause allows Congress to regulate commerce between states and also prohibits states from interfering with each otherâs interstate commerce.
Meierâs idea is an interesting one, Deti said, and perhaps one whose time has finally come, with President Donald Trump now in office.
âYou would still need a company willing to go in and develop those facilities so that we can actually move coal out of them,â Deti said. âWith some of the executive orders that have come out of the Trump administration on some of this stuff, I mean it could be resurrected. The idea might actually be feasible here in a short time.â
Deti recalled that the dynamic at the time was a curious one, where politics indeed made for some strange bedfellows.
âWe had a really kind of unique alliance with the trade unions, which kind of tend to be on the blue side, the Democrat side,â Deti said. âBut we had all the trade unions on our side, because that would have been a significant amount of jobs.â
Deti said he hopes Wyoming does revisit the topic of a port in Washington, adding that itâs not the first time that state has used its environmental rules to torpedo projects it didnât like â at the expense of land-locked stateâs commerce. Wyomingâs case didnât get a fair shake, since the developer went bankrupt, and the state lacked standing to continue the case.
âThat was the basis of our lawsuit is that they were kind of stepping outside of their lane on some things,â Deti said. âAnd in the broader picture, the states involved felt it was a violation of the Interstate Commerce Clause. It just didnât get far enough to get any traction.â
Support From Gray
While Gray and Meier have sparred, sometimes publicly, the two men seemed to agree about the idea of an investment vehicle in Washington, or some other West Coast state, to help further assure the chances of a port effort there.
âIâm not opposed to that,â Gray said. âWeâve got to get an investor. This is, I know it seems pie in the sky, but I think that if the state shows that weâre willing to â and look, Iâm a low-government Freedom Caucus guy, a founding member.
âBut if we show the market that we are going to fight for our core industries, I think it increases the chances exponentially that there will be folks who are going to invest in it.â
But, Gray added, itâs going to take leadership, and thatâs something he personally would like to see the Wyoming Business Council taking on.
âWe need a working group,â Gray said. âWe need a strategy. And Iâm happy to meet with you on that.â
Gray said Wyoming might never have a better chance than now to realize a port in Washington, to take its coal to markets in Asia.
âCoal is going to have a comeback, not only domestically, but we are going to begin exporting it in larger volumes,â Gray said. âAnd I wanted to get that out there, because we havenât, weâre back with Trump â Golden Age â and weâve got to take this opportunity to get to the finish line on being able to export our coal to other markets.â
Donât Forget About Natural Gas
Superintendent of Public Instruction Megan Degenfelder, however, said she has worked in both industries and sees things a little differently.
âI see liquefied natural gas and the potential for worldwide shipment of that to be the solution that we have,â she said. âWe have the technology and other countries donât.â
Degenfelder pointed out Asian countries have their own sources of coal, while Wyomingâs coal is âon the margin.â
âLooking at liquefying natural gas I think is the solution and what we have here,â she said. âAnd so, I would say that No. 1, focusing on that legacy.â
Her No. 2 choice for refocusing the Wyoming Business Council is technology.
âItâs tech, AI, digital assets,â she said. âWe have to jump on that. The biggest thing that weâre hearing from folks in those sectors is preparing students int eh education space to be able to take on those jobs.
âSo I think if we can do that, and we can welcome that sector, with particularly, oil and gas, I think thatâs where we can really thrive in the next 50 to 100 years.â
That, Degenfelder added, would mean Wyoming is developing both its legacy businesses as well as its future ones.Â
Renée Jean can be reached at renee@cowboystatedaily.com.